Guests - Ava Chen, Laurie Moore, Joel Strabala
China's Shadow War: Behind the Israel-Iran Conflict and Global Power Struggles
Xi Jinping's Strategic Response to the Israel-Iran Crisis
The escalating conflict between Israel and Iran has revealed China's complex geopolitical strategy, with President Xi Jinping breaking his silence to express "deep concern" about the situation. According to Ava Chen of the New Federal State of China, this public statement masks China's covert support for Iran and its broader agenda to undermine American influence.
"Iran has been a proxy for CCP for a long time," Chen explains. "The strike you witnessed in the last five, six days, as the IDF started a barrage of missile attack on Iran – basically, it's very exciting, not only for the Iranian people but also for the Chinese people who have been oppressed by this most powerful, dark power in the world."
Chen argues that the strikes against Iran have effectively disrupted one-third of the proxy forces deployed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in its confrontation with the United States. She characterizes the conflict not as a regional dispute but as part of a global power struggle between China and America.
"I can tell you that the last week's strike has basically took out one-third of the proxy forces that deployed and mobilized by the Chinese Communist Party in its goal and objective in confronting the United States," Chen states.
While Xi Jinping publicly called for de-escalation, saying that China "opposes any act that infringes upon the sovereignty, security, and territorial integrity of other countries," Chen points to evidence of Chinese cargo planes covertly delivering military supplies to Iran. Reports indicate that multiple Boeing 747 freighters departed from China with Luxembourg listed as their destination but disappeared from radar tracking after turning off their transponders near Iranian airspace.
"So if you go online, you just search Chinese cargo plane turned off the tracking device. And they actually have a picture that this is what the map tracking all those flights," Chen describes. "And they basically when they getting closer to Iran, they turned off their radar tracking device. So no one be able to tracing them."
These flights allegedly occurred on three consecutive days, taking similar flight paths over northern China, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan before disappearing from radar near Iran. According to Chen, this represents China's commitment to propping up the Iranian regime as a strategic partner in its confrontation with the United States.
China's Long-Term Strategy to Undermine American Power
Chen outlines what she calls China's "3F Strategy" — a comprehensive plan to undermine American global leadership without direct military confrontation. This strategy, which she attributes to Chinese dissident Miles Guo, aims to "foreman weaknesses, foreman chaoses, and foreman the eventual destruction of the United States."
"This is how they're fighting the war," Chen explains. "A lot of people doesn't recognize it."
Rather than engaging in traditional warfare, China employs a variety of tactics to weaken America from within. Chen points to several components of this strategy:
Economic Warfare: "They are creating what we called a dictatorship dictatorship club," Chen says, describing how China is cultivating relationships with authoritarian regimes to create an alternative economic system that doesn't rely on the U.S. dollar.
Proxy Conflicts: Using countries like Iran to challenge American interests without direct Chinese involvement. "They have been planning and attacking you a long time ago," Chen notes. "It's just you don't recognize it, because they didn't come at you with missiles and drones and gunpowders."
Internal Disruption: Exploiting racial and political tensions within the United States. "They come at you with fentanyl, with infiltration, with stealing your election, with explore your racial political tension, and let Americans kill Americans."
Biological Warfare: Chen suggests that COVID-19 was part of this strategy and warns of potential future attacks. "They're seizing opportunities to do more damage to you at any time they could launch another bio-weapon attack on you."
Chen argues that this multi-faceted approach allows China to wage war without being recognized as the aggressor. "This is a very calculated, meticulously executed plan that Miles Guo told America in 2017, October 5th," she states.
The Iran-China Relationship: Economics, Oil, and Regional Control
The relationship between Iran and China extends beyond mere diplomatic alliance. Chen describes it as deeply intertwined on multiple levels:
Financial Control: "The regime's assets are actually in chokehold by the CCP," Chen explains. "The Mula, like remember the money that President Trump knocked out in early 2020. The CPP opened a specific bank for these individual families... They steal from Iranian people. And they keep it in the Chinese bank because going anywhere else, the world is going to sanction them."
Oil Trade: Iran provides China with discounted oil, a critical resource for China's economy. "Everywhere they go to buy the oil, they're paying a premium price. Only Iran gives them the discounted oil," Chen states.
Strategic Position: Iran serves as a key node in China's Belt and Road Initiative, providing access to the Middle East and connecting to other strategic partnerships. "Through all of this, they can basically be self-sufficient," Chen notes. "They can kick out United States and US dollars easily."
This relationship gives China significant leverage over Iran's leadership, ensuring that Iranian policies align with Chinese interests. When Israel targeted Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure, China's response went beyond public statements of concern to include covert material support, according to Chen.
The Digital Battlefield: Election Interference and Media Manipulation
Chen alleges that China's influence extends deep into American domestic politics, including claims of interference in the 2020 presidential election. She references recent allegations by FBI Director Kash Patel about Chinese involvement in manufacturing fake driver's licenses intended to facilitate fraudulent mail-in ballots.
"My school told us in 2020, November, he said this was not election between Biden and Trump," Chen claims. "This was an election between China, the CCP Xi Jinping, two people, two leaders Xi Jinping and Wang Qishan, which at that time was vice president of China... and Trump."
Chen describes a three-tiered system of CCP agents operating in the United States:
Covert Agents: "The first one is CCP undercover agents. And they are hidden."
Pro-CCP Influencers: "The second category are those people are presenting themselves as pro-China. They're actors. What's underneath the cloak is their pro-CCP. They could be your businessmen, entrepreneur, politicians, think tank, advisors, scientists, whatever media personnel."
Visible Disruptors: "The last category... is those radical left-wing on your streets. The reason why they're least dangerous is because you see them."
She argues that the first two categories pose the greatest threat because they operate covertly, influencing American institutions and public opinion without being recognized as foreign agents.
The Future of U.S.-China Relations and Taiwan's Vulnerability
Looking ahead, Chen identifies Taiwan as a flashpoint in U.S.-China relations. She warns that recent developments, particularly the election of a pro-Beijing president in South Korea, have altered the strategic landscape in East Asia to China's advantage.
"Right now, there's one nation is extremely in danger. Guess who that nation is? Taiwan," Chen states emphatically. "Taiwan is extremely dangerous right now."
She explains that China's strategy involves systematically turning neighboring countries into allies or neutralizing them as potential opponents. "Xi Jinping is creating what we called a dictatorship dictatorship club," she observes. "She is turning more and more countries heads and their family into a family wrong dictatorship into a monarchy."
The relationship between Russia and China exemplifies this approach. Chen rejects the notion that the U.S. can drive a wedge between Putin and Xi: "That thinking, I mean, is commendable. But it's a little bit naive because you don't know how this dictatorship, especially those families relationship, they signed up with CCP."
Instead, she argues that the focus should be on supporting internal opposition within these regimes. "It's decapitating this leaders because of Russia people, not all of them supporting Putin," she suggests.
Scam Alert: Protecting Yourself from Financial Fraud
The discussion shifts to practical advice about avoiding financial scams, with Laurie Moore joining to discuss prevalent fraud schemes targeting Americans.
Moore warns about several common scams:
Fake Toll Road Charges: "I will still, I just got it not too long ago, you haven't paid your toll. And if you don't want us to take, you know, criminal action, you need to pay this toll," Moore recounts, noting that many areas don't even have toll roads.
False Arrest Warrants: "The other scam that's been going on is people call and say you have an outstanding warrant," Moore explains. "I was at my hairdressers and one of her clients... had sent $10,000 for what he believed was an outstanding warrant."
Impersonating Law Enforcement: These scammers often work in teams, with one person claiming to be from law enforcement and another pretending to be a prosecutor. "The first call will tell you about the ticket and they say they're going to put you in touch with the prosecutor. And they will switch to another phone, which the person's probably 10 feet away from them."
IRS Impersonation: "The other scary one that they, I think there's been one for the IRS and that really makes the hair on the back of your neck stand out," Moore notes.
To protect yourself, Moore advises:
Verify claims independently by contacting official agencies directly
Be suspicious of demands for immediate payment
Never wire money to unknown parties
Be cautious about clicking links in emails
Don't trust caller ID, as it can be spoofed
"All I did was call the police and say, is there a warrant out for my arrest?" Moore recommends as a simple verification step.
Election Observer Opportunities in Arizona's CD7 Special Election
The conversation concludes with Joel Strabala, who serves on the Pima County Election Integrity Commission, discussing opportunities for citizens to participate as election observers in upcoming local elections.
"Early ballots go out today," Strabala notes, referring to the special primary election for Congressional District 7. "Election observers are political party representatives that are assigned or appointed by the political party chair to be the eyes and ears of the political party during the election process."
Strabala explains that observers play a crucial role in ensuring election integrity: "They are part of a system to detect, mitigate, document, and sometimes address election-related disruptions during the election period."
He outlines the significant need for volunteers: "We've got for the CD7 primary election in June and July, we've got 354 shifts that we need people to fill. And for the July to August City of Tucson primary election, another 240 shifts."
Observers can serve in several capacities:
Early ballot signature verification centers
Ballot processing centers
Tabulation centers
Election day vote centers
The CD7 election, scheduled for July 15, 2025, is particularly significant as it covers a district that includes hundreds of miles of the U.S.-Mexico border. Strabala encourages citizens to get involved by visiting www.pimagop.org and signing up for training.
"If you're one of those people that's concerned about elections, you can go to the Pima County GOP website and you can sign up," he explains. "We will train you. We will make sure you know what to look for. We will let you know what the boundaries are."
This special election follows the passing of Congressman Raul Grahava, who had served the district for 23 years. With three Republican candidates and four Democratic candidates competing in the primary, the election represents an opportunity for change in what has been described as one of the poorest congressional districts in the country.