Guests - Ava Chen, Betsy Smith, Laurie Moore
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China Watch Wednesday: Unpacking the Epstein Files and CCP Influence
Kathleen Winn opened the segment with her co-host Ava Chen, diving straight into the recent release of additional Epstein documents — described as a "dump" of roughly 3 million pages. Chen framed the conversation around a critical question: beyond the known crimes and the long-publicized client list, what deeper societal rot does this exposure reveal, and how is the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) exploiting it?
Chen argued that the hysteria surrounding the files distracts from the root causes of elite corruption: excessive pursuit of money, power, and glory. Drawing on insights from Miles Guo, she called these "three demons" that, when unchecked, twist individuals into something demonic. "When ego inflates into a bubble," Chen said, "it creates emptiness. People lose faith, lose God, and fill the void with fear — fear of aging, death, loneliness. That's when the demons take control."
She connected this moral decay to broader Western civilization trends: declining religious faith, capitalism's elevation of money above all else, and media consolidation in the hands of "gangsters, criminals, and swamp animals." The result, Chen contended, is a society that has lost truth and now re-traumatizes victims while handing the CCP a propaganda weapon.
Winn highlighted specific figures like Bill Gates, who spent significant time with Epstein and later called it a "dead end" and "foolish." Chen dismissed the regret as shallow, insisting society must confront why such depravity emerged among the world's most privileged.
CCP Exploitation and Comparative Evil
Chen stressed that while Western elites are exposed, CCP figures are conspicuously absent from the visible files — a deliberate omission in her view. The CCP, she said, is laughing at Western chaos while lecturing the world on morality. "They're anti-human," Chen declared. "They commit these crimes nonstop, 24/7. To them it's routine."
She contrasted Epstein's single known island with the CCP's alleged tens of thousands of daily "Epstein-level" offenses in China. Miles Guo, according to Chen, has repeatedly described CCP tactics: offering money, women, and even permission to kill to corrupt global elites. "They gave you sex," Chen quoted Guo, "and they allow you to kill."
Winn noted Prince Andrew's dual exposure — ties to both Epstein and Xi Jinping — as evidence of CCP infiltration through compromise. Chen agreed, warning that the file release will haunt Western civilization for 100–200 years as CCP propaganda material. Guo, she said, argued the documents should never have been released for the sake of humanity, though he credited President Trump as the only leader who would have allowed it to surface.
Miles Guo's Broader Warnings
Chen shared Guo's recent guidance: reflect deeply on what we see, learn, and truly understand from events like the Epstein dump, AI proliferation, global economics, and U.S. elections. Guo urged the anti-CCP movement to sharpen discernment between truth and falsehood, warning that many self-proclaimed anti-CCP voices in the West are decades removed from China or actually serve Beijing's propaganda machine.
"The whistleblower movement refuses shortcuts," Chen relayed from Guo. "We chase neither money, nor power, nor glory. Truth alone breaks through." She encouraged listeners to follow NFSC platforms (NFSC Speaks on X, Gettr, Rumble, Instagram, YouTube) for uncompromised information.
Shifting to Law Enforcement: ICE Operations and Tom Homan
Later in the broadcast, retired sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith joined Winn for the "Smith and Winn" segment. The discussion turned to ICE enforcement actions in Minneapolis and broader border security.
Smith praised incoming Border Czar Tom Homan's leadership, describing his recent press conference as "phenomenal." Homan, who has served under six presidents, emphasized that immigration enforcement is not political — it's about law and community safety. He announced agreements with Minnesota jurisdictions to improve jail-level cooperation with ICE detainers, aiming to reduce neighborhood raids.
Smith noted that roughly 700 federal agents are leaving Minneapolis immediately (about 25% of the state's total), with 2,000 remaining focused on the Twin Cities. She called out Antifa-style checkpoints as illegal and highlighted that many protesters are paid outsiders who don't live in the affected communities.
The Nancy Guthrie Disappearance
Winn and Smith addressed the ongoing case of missing Tucson elderly woman Nancy Guthrie, mother of NBC's Savannah Guthrie. Reports indicate a ransom note was sent to media outlets, and investigators are re-examining family connections — specifically the last person known to have seen her alive.
Smith, drawing on 29 years of law enforcement experience, explained that stranger abductions of adults are extremely rare. Typical investigations focus first on family and staff networks. She expressed concern about time passing without Guthrie's daily medication and criticized Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos for mishandling media relations and potentially impeding the investigation.
"Nanos won by less than 250 votes," Smith reminded listeners. "Elections have consequences." She lamented that a different Republican primary outcome might have yielded a more competent sheriff.
Pima County Board of Supervisors Meeting
Precinct committeewoman Laurie Moore called in to debrief the previous day's contentious Board of Supervisors meeting. Republicans were heavily outnumbered, with one activist reportedly swearing at a Republican attendee's emotional support dog wearing a MAGA pin.
Moore described proposed anti-ICE ordinances as meaningless posturing, noting local authorities lack jurisdiction over federal agents. She highlighted Dave Smith's pointed question: if protesters demand due process for illegal immigrants, where will they be housed during proceedings?
Moore also criticized Propositions 418 and 419, particularly the continuation of free bus fares, which she called dangerous and enabling for drug activity. The overall budget, she said, has ballooned past $3 billion despite initial projections of $2.9 billion.
Lighter Notes and Upcoming Events
Winn shared a heartwarming neighborhood story: finding an escaped horse named Woody in her yard and helping return him to his owner.
The broadcast closed with enthusiasm for an evening event featuring Fox News contributor Joe Concha at the Tucson Country Club, discussing his book on President Trump's campaign comeback. Winn and Moore also praised the new documentary Melania, highlighting the First Lady's grace, independence, and focus on children compared to her predecessor.
Winn reminded listeners that early ballots arrive next week and encouraged informed voting on local propositions and continued vigilance on public safety and election integrity issues.