Guests - Katey McPherson, Heather Rooks, Sergio Arellano, Scott Schara
Schools That Protect Perpetrators, a Board President Removed for Doing Her Job, and a Father Who Stopped Participating in Babylon
Thursday on Winn Tucson was a morning that defied easy description. It was about sexual abuse in schools. It was about the institutional reflex to protect administrators over children. It was about a school board president removed for filing mandatory reports. And it was, by the end, a sustained conversation about the theological and structural roots of a culture that Kathleen Winn and her final guest agree is designed to kill — not always with weapons, but always with systems.
Four guests, one moral through-line: when institutions designed to protect people systematically protect themselves instead, the burden falls on individuals willing to stand up and take the consequence. Thursday's show was full of them.
Katey McPherson: A Special Needs Student Molested, a Social Worker Who Told Her to Email the Boy, and Five Adults Who Watched the Video and Said Nothing
Katey McPherson is a child safety advocate, former educator, and the kind of ally who calls Kathleen Winn when something is wrong — not when something is complicated, not when there's a gray area, but when something is simply, flatly wrong and nobody in authority is doing anything about it.
This week's call was about a 15-year-old girl at Combs High School in Santan Valley, Pinal County. She is on the autism spectrum with additional cognitive delays. Her developmental age, in terms of decision-making capacity and social cue processing, is approximately eight years old. She is federally protected under an IEP — an Individualized Education Program — which gives her both a case manager on campus and an outside advocate.
What Happened to Her
At some point during the school day, a 16-year-old male student touched her breast and her private parts. She was not his girlfriend. They had not been in a relationship. She understood enough — despite everything working against her ability to process social situations — to know that something wrong had happened. She went to the school's embedded social worker and disclosed it in direct language: a boy touched her breast and her private parts, and she didn't know what to do.
That disclosure should have triggered two immediate actions: a call to her parents, and a call to law enforcement. Both are legally required under Arizona's mandatory reporting statute, ARS 13-3620.
Neither happened.
"She's a storyteller and exaggerates," the social worker wrote to the assistant principal, "but you should probably pull the video footage and see if she's telling the truth."
What the social worker told the girl: go back to class, and email the boy to let him know she was uncomfortable.
"Stop right there," Winn said during the segment. "This girl went to a trusted adult — a social worker — and the social worker's solution was for the victim to contact the perpetrator."
She followed the instruction. She emailed him. He emailed back: I'm really sorry.
Five Adults Watched the Video. Nobody Called.
The assistant principal pulled the footage. He watched it. Then he showed it to four additional administrators — directors, assistant superintendents, and a superintendent. All five watched the same video. All five saw what happened. None of them called the girl's mother. None of them called law enforcement.
The girl's mother found out approximately five hours after the incident, at the end of the school day.
When the mother reported to law enforcement herself, a detective conducted a proper forensic interview. The boy was interviewed. He was, as McPherson noted, remarkably honest: yes, he grabbed her, touched her inappropriately, was trying to "get with her," and was trying to get her to touch him in return. Admitted. On record. With intent demonstrated.
The detective submitted charges for forcible fondling and juvenile felony sexual abuse.
The school district's response: this was mutual affection. Teenagers touch each other. There was nothing to report.
The Written Statement That Disappeared
McPherson walked through the sequence with care. The boy's written statement — in which he acknowledged his actions — did not make it to the detective. Additional video cameras in the hallway, which McPherson noted would have provided further documentation, were deemed by the district to not be relevant.
The county attorney declined to pursue the charges.
"We have asked for that to be reviewed," McPherson said, "based on all of what I've described — the video, the disclosures, the admitted statement."
The Social Worker Told Her to Demonstrate
There was an additional violation McPherson disclosed that should be, as she put it, its own training failure. At some point during the interaction, the social worker asked the girl to demonstrate how the boy had touched her.
"Social workers are not investigators," McPherson said. "Under the mandatory reporting law, as school people we're not allowed to investigate. She should have immediately turned it over to law enforcement."
Instead, the social worker not only failed to call the police — she re-traumatized a victim with the mental capacity of an eight-year-old by asking her to physically demonstrate what had been done to her.
What the School Wanted the Victim to Do
After the mother got involved, the school placed a safety plan on campus that essentially required the victim to navigate around her assailant. She was given a map of routes to avoid him.
"The only person's movements that should be managed are the perpetrator's, not the victim's," McPherson said.
The girl cannot easily transfer schools. Because of her special education classification, other schools are not required to accept her if they have full special education caseloads. She is effectively trapped in the building that failed to protect her, navigating around the boy who violated her, while the district that watched it happen on video tells the family it was mutual.
"This family has been shouldering the burden of what happened from the get go," McPherson said. "And the administration has done a beautiful job of victim blaming."
Mom is not finished. She is pursuing state-level certification complaints against the staff involved. She is seeking review of the declined charges. A civil suit is likely. McPherson is not going anywhere.
The Standard McPherson Returns to Every Time
"When in doubt, report. The threshold is so low. A reasonable belief based on a child's written or verbal disclosure, or information you received from a third party that's credible. She disclosed. That's all that was needed."
Heather Rooks: Two Teachers, Eight or Nine Victims, a Viral TikTok, a Police Report, and the Board President Removed for Filing the Right Reports
Heather Rooks was elected to the Peoria Unified School District governing board in 2022. She was the board president. She is no longer the board president — she was removed in a 3-2 vote. The reason: she filed mandatory reporting requests with the Maricopa County Attorney's Office and the Arizona State Board of Education related to two teachers who, by any reading of the publicly available police report, were engaging in sexual misconduct with students.
She came to the studio to explain what is in that police report — because it is public record — and why she did what she did.
Teacher One: Angela Barlocha
The investigation began when a grandmother came forward to the Peoria Police Department: her grandson had been receiving explicit videos of himself from his teacher, Angela Barlocha, who was 47 years old. The grandmother and the boy's mother stated that this began when the student was 16.
Barlocha has since surrendered her teaching certificate to the Arizona State Board of Education, which accepted it. The Peoria Unified School Board read the statement of charges and voted to terminate her. A separate investigation into whether her certificate should be formally revoked — as opposed to simply surrendered — is ongoing.
Teacher Two: Haley Beck
What the investigation into Barlocha revealed led directly to a second teacher: Haley Beck. According to the police report, an assistant football coach at Centennial High School disclosed that a student told him there were approximately eight or nine unidentified victims receiving explicit videos from both teachers.
The dynamic, as documented in the police report, is difficult to read: students were, in the coach's account, competing with each other to see who could receive the most explicit material from both teachers.
The evidence that the adults around Haley Beck saw something long before anyone acted is extensive. Students were aware. Other teachers questioned Beck about her behavior with one particular student. A teacher at another high school in the district warned the principal that Beck and a specific student were getting "too close."
In February 2025, a graduating student emailed the principal and assistant principals directly: I hope you are doing well. I'm writing to share a concern regarding Ms. Beck and a student that I believe warrants your attention. The email went on to describe Ms. Beck giving the student Christmas gifts while giving nothing to others, frequent Snapchat communication between them, and the two being seen together in a vehicle.
"Any training that you go to in Arizona as a school board member, staff member," Rooks said, "the experts tell you to watch for grooming behavior patterns. They don't just say you can only report if it's sexual abuse. They tell you to look for signs. And those are the signs."
The principal received the February warning. The police arrived at the school on a search warrant. The principal told them he had information pertaining to the case — and disclosed that he had also been warned by an administrator at another school in the district. He had not acted on either warning.
Haley Beck's Mother
There is a separate and shocking element to the Beck story. A TikTok video went viral featuring Beck's brother Noah Beck and their mother — a sexually explicit video, described as a "trend." The district placed Beck's mother, who teaches at an elementary school in the same district, on administrative leave. She was later allowed to return to the classroom.
What Rooks Did and Why She Was Removed
As board president, Rooks filed two formal requests: one to the Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell asking for an investigation into mandatory reporting compliance at Centennial High School, and one to the Arizona State Board of Education on the same grounds. Both were filed as a private citizen and as a parent in the district.
Everything she cited was drawn from the publicly available police report.
The board voted 3-2 to remove her as president.
A student from Centennial High School — the ex-girlfriend of one of the victims — posted publicly on a news story about the case: Most of us students didn't speak up because we believed it wasn't our place to. As a witness of Haley Beck and Angela Barlocha's disgusting actions, I didn't say anything to our principal or the school board out of fear that it would be for nothing. In reality, our principal failed to take action against these individuals when he was told about their actions. It shouldn't be at fault of any of the victims because none of our voices were heard.
"She was afraid to speak up to the principal," Rooks said. "She was afraid to speak up to the board because she felt their voices would not be heard. And now look what just happened. I spoke up and they removed me as president. What does that show that student? It tells them they should be quiet, fall in line."
Rooks cannot be removed from the board without a recall. She remains a member with full voting rights. Her voice has not been taken.
"They can't take your voice away," Winn told her. "Hang tough."
Sergio Arellano: The Legislative Salute, Dr. Oz, and Arizona's Moment
Sergio Arellano is the chairman of the Arizona Republican Party, and he joined Thursday to announce the revival of an old tradition: the Legislative Salute — a formal celebration of Republican legislators who are doing the daily work of holding the line against Governor Hobbs' veto machine and building a record of conservative governance that Arizona voters can take into November.
The Event
The Legislative Salute is scheduled for Saturday evening, 5:30 to 7 p.m., in Mesa. The featured speaker is Dr. Oz — who has become, in Arellano's framing, a major national voice on healthcare accountability, government transparency, and taxpayer protection. The event is designed to honor legislators who have been driving back and forth to the Capitol day after day, building the unanimous Republican budget, holding the line on ESA scholarships, and fighting back against 41-and-counting lawsuits from Attorney General Chris Mays.
To register: azgop.com/salute — with discounts available for leaders and activists.
Arizona as the Last Line
Arellano was pointed about Arizona's strategic position heading into 2026.
"We are surrounded by liberalism — California, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado. Arizona is the beacon of freedom and the last state standing when it comes to freedom."
He cited the Oversight Project's Monday lawsuit against Fontes and Mays over the elections procedures manual, the ongoing corruption investigation into Governor Hobbs, and the budget fight as the three active fronts where Arizona Republicans are doing something while Democrats obstruct.
"Look no further than the GOP, its members, its legislators, its county chairs, and its leaders to try and work and collaborate together to bring that relief to the everyday Arizonan."
His closing message was as direct as it gets: they are building an army for good, and Saturday is a chance to stand in formation.
Scott Schara: The Culture of Death Has a Six-Thousand-Year Pedigree, and Here Is How You Stop Participating
This is the third installment of a seven-part series. Scott Schara is the Wisconsin father, author, and researcher whose 19-year-old daughter Grace — who had Down syndrome — died in a hospital in October 2021. He is the author of Is the Government Legally Killing Us?, available at OurAmazingGrace.net.
Where the Culture of Death Begins
Schara opened with a question that is rarely asked directly in political conversation: where does the culture of death come from? Not in terms of recent policy, but in terms of its origin.
His answer: Genesis chapter 3. Satan offered Adam and Eve the tree of the knowledge of good and evil — specifically the secret knowledge that belongs to God — rather than the tree of life. The result was both physical death (Adam and Eve were never supposed to die) and spiritual death.
"We're still chasing that today, and it's on steroids."
He then traced the culture of death through Plato's Republic — the first articulation of collectivism, the idea that contributing members of society matter more than those who don't contribute — through the Hippocratic oath, which he argues is not a vow of protection but an oath to four ancient entities whose symbol is two snakes around a pole.
"They're telling us what they're going to do if we're paying attention."
How Government Took Over Physical Death: Jacobson v. Massachusetts
The Supreme Court case Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905) was, in Schara's analysis, the legal foundation for everything that followed during COVID. Jacobson was a pastor who refused the smallpox vaccine on the documented grounds that it would not stop spread of the disease and might cause other diseases. The Supreme Court ruled 7-2 in favor of the state.
The key passage from the decision: The rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint... as the safety of the general public may demand.
"So they create a fake pandemic — that's a great danger — to be enforced by reasonable regulations. So when you have a great danger, even if it's made up, now you can have masking, shots, mandates. And the Supreme Court has said it's lawful in their system."
Without Jacobson v. Massachusetts, he argues, COVID could not have been legally executed.
The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services as the Control Mechanism
The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services — CMS — controls 99.9% of healthcare in America through the Chevron Doctrine, a 1984 administrative law ruling that gave federal agencies the authority to interpret statutes with significant deference. The Chevron Doctrine was repealed in July 2024. The damage, Schara argues, is already done.
"The standard of care is really the standard of death. They've done this systematically over time."
He cited 135 million Americans currently on Medicare or Medicaid, at a combined cost of $5 trillion per year — over 50% of the federal budget. When politicians talk about cutting these programs, the population that depends on them mobilizes to defend them.
"They end up fighting for the very systems that are designed to hasten their death. That's the trap."
How They Program Doctors to Kill Down Syndrome Patients
During the segment, Schara located and read from an active medical training document published by the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin — written by MDs, for MDs — on the treatment of patients with Down syndrome.
The document lists more than 50 medical complications associated with Down syndrome. It then states: "The lifelong toll on families is high. Part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by the health care providers." Translation, in Schara's reading: doctors are trained to frame Down syndrome patients as burdens before they ever arrive in a hospital room.
The document then states that "decision makers for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment to make key palliative care decisions" — and acknowledges that "because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down syndrome may not be known."
"This is how they push the Down syndrome population into palliative care," Schara said. "Ron Panzer — the hospice expert in America — calls it stealth euthanasia."
Ninety percent of Down syndrome babies diagnosed in utero are aborted. The 10% who are born, like Grace, encounter this medical training when they need hospitalization.
He connected this directly to the morning's first segment: the Down syndrome girl at Combs High School who was molested, whose school district treated her as a secondary concern at every turn.
"We abort 90% of babies that have Down syndrome. And then the ones that are still walking around, we treat them differently. This is the culture of death still at work."
The 1968 Weekly Reader: When It Started
Schara traced the collectivist programming back to his own kindergarten in 1968, when a Weekly Reader — the children's classroom news publication — contained the message that having more than two children was irresponsible because of the planet's limited resources.
"God told us to be fruitful and multiply. He never amended that. But in 1968, they were telling five-year-olds that their parents were irresponsible for having more than two children."
The programmed scarcity message — there are limited resources, contributing members of society matter more than burdens, the population must be managed — has been delivered through schools, media, and medical systems for over five decades.
The Civic Duty Trap and How Grace Died
The question Schara placed before listeners as the show's central challenge: Is it our civic duty to obey the government?
He answered it with the story of Grace's last October. She had a cold before a family wedding. Following the COVID protocols they had been told constituted civic duty and responsible behavior, Cindy drove to Walgreens and got a test. Grace tested positive.
"If we would have never tested her, she'd be alive today. That set in motion a whole bunch of things we did because now we bought into the fear propaganda — which was their goal."
He was careful to note — and Winn reinforced — that this is not self-blame. The con was convincing because it was designed to be convincing. Being deceived does not mean you're stupid.
"But once you learn how and why you were deceived — if you continue to participate, you are now stupid."
The Believing vs. Knowing Distinction
Schara spent time on what he called the most important epistemological distinction in his research: the difference between belief and knowing.
Belief is generally the product of programming. You believe your doctor is good because that is what you have been taught to believe. You believe the pastor knows more than you because that is the social convention. You believe the medical system is designed to help you because the alternative is too frightening to hold.
Knowing requires documentation, primary sources, verified evidence.
"God says in Hosea 4:6: my people perish for lack of knowledge. He's commanding us to actually know what is going on. Look at the supporting documents. And once you see these things with your own eyes, you can't unsee it."
The Conference and the $0.99 Gas Trap
At a 250-person conference he had just presented at, Schara used a thought experiment that illuminated how deeply the programming runs. He asked the audience to raise their hands if they thought it would be good news if a president signed an executive order capping gasoline prices at 99 cents per gallon — permanently, forever.
Almost every hand went up.
"That's what they were programmed to respond to. Not: is this actually good? But: is this good for me right now? And then, well, does that mean a million people will be out of their jobs? There's a consequence to that. We're so programmed for instant gratification that we don't look at consequences."
The Sermon on the Mount, Matthew chapter 5, is his corrective. "We're programmed to think we can follow the Ten Commandments. What Jesus said is you can't. The only way to follow them is with Him. Because He's after the heart. He said, if you get angry, you've murdered in your heart."
How to Fight Back: Escaping Babylon
Schara's prescription for resistance is not primarily political. It begins with a paradigm shift — and then with withdrawal from the systems doing the damage.
"Once your paradigm has changed — the government lies to me, I've been programmed, the medical system is trying to kill me, the legal system is an injustice system, the school system is indoctrinating my kids — now you're ready to fight back. Until then, you're just going to keep chasing the American Dream because that's what they want you to do. Be an obedient slave."
Practical steps he recommends:
Homeschooling — "a no-brainer" once the paradigm shift has occurred.
Exiting conventional health insurance — Schara's family now participates in Samaritan Ministries, a faith-based medical cost-sharing arrangement. "We chose to participate with Samaritan's Ministries. And so we don't have any health insurance in the conventional system. Why would I want to have somebody who accepts Medicare or Medicaid? It doesn't make any sense."
Three Films He Recommends
He offered three works of film and literature for people at different stages of the paradigm shift:
The Truman Show — Jim Carrey's film about a man born inside a fabricated world who slowly realizes his reality is constructed, and who ultimately escapes. "If you see it as just a funny movie, you'll enjoy it. But watch it as predictive programming."
Jones Plantation — "It shows you how we have become slaves. We think we're free, and if you watch Jones Plantation, you will be convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt we are slaves."
Pilgrim's Progress — available as a film or as the original John Bunyan text. For the person who has recognized the problem and is asking: now what? "It's absolutely outstanding about our journey after we realize we're supposed to not be in this system anymore."
What Grace Would Think
Winn closed the segment with the question she said had been building all morning: what would Grace think of what her father is doing?
Schara answered with a memory. At Grace's funeral dinner, a friend approached him and said that Grace had once told him she wanted her dad to know God.
"I would think that she would say: Dad, you're making progress."
Next week's installment: the programming of the medical profession — how the culture of death was systematically built into medical education, and why it did not happen by accident.
Scott Schara's book, Is the Government Legally Killing Us?, is available at OurAmazingGrace.net. One hundred percent of proceeds go to Grace's foundation. The Substack newsletter, including the seven-part eugenics series and links to all recommended films, is also accessible through OurAmazingGrace.net.
Winn Tucson airs Monday through Friday, 9 to 11 a.m., on KVOI 1030 The Voice.
Legislative Salute — Saturday, 5:30–7 p.m., Mesa: azgop.com/salute
Combs High School case: parents or community members with information are encouraged to contact Katey McPherson's advocacy network.
Peoria Unified School District — Heather Rooks remains on the governing board and can be reached through the district's public channels.